A weak and foolish one God uses to confound the worldly wise. Purpose commissioned from the Throne: To speak encouragement to leaders, to speak clarity to those in influence, to speak of things to come, to speak clearly against those who would others and to reveal the Heart of a Matter when it causes confusion. Sometimes interpreted by some to be a "Troubler of Israel".
I only say what God says, that which I hear from the Throne
Monday, April 22, 2013
Where are the REAL Prophets of GOD?
Last week when all hell broke loose, most national prophets were very busy tickling the ears of the American Church with fluffy messages about how awesome we all are.
I was wondering the other day why were some of the prophet saying "happy, happy" prophecy. The prophets of old didn't just prophesied happy things. They also prophesied against people, nations, letting one know they were doing wrong, the future. I found myself wondering where were the prophets like the old today?
Luk 11:49 Therefore also said the wisdom of GOD, I WILL SEND them prophets and apostles, and [some] of them they shall slay-c) of any kind of separation of one thing from another by which the union or fellowship of the two is destroyed and persecute: -1) to make to run or flee, put to flight, drive away 2) to run swiftly in order to catch a person or thing, to run after a) to press on: figuratively of one who in a race runs swiftly to reach the goal b) to pursue (in a hostile manner) 3) in any way whatever to harass, trouble, molest one luke 18 1- 9 mat 13:16 -43 rev 18-1-24 I remember mike bickle teachin a message and I don’t listen to many from him. It seems maybe the Lord dealt with him about the seven thunders being messages that prophets will bring forth that will be fearful and wonderful but many will say that this is not the Jesus we knew many will draw back but the message will be given and fully understood making them accountable and that these prophets are alive today. Prophets and Apostles at least in my opinion should in touch with one another.They are called to the balcony of heaven and I have always heard the wicked where those that new better and went into absoloute rebellion. God in His mercy sends them judgement starts with His church. I have read on your website and many others about prophets and sent ones being treated very badly and so it begins.There are true Prophets and Apostles as you well know.The up and coming leaders are the absoloute foolish things God may use to test. if current leadership is discerning the Body submitting one to another as unto the Lord running things by their own means and becoming wise in their own eyes. Time is very short wether the next generation will be killed off or God will begin to remove in some way leaders unacceptable I do not know.Kenneth Hagin has a testimony of seeing Jesus and the subject came up what if they don’t receive me to which the reply was shake the dust off your feet time is short and I will remove what they currently have I think it was candlestick. I am pretty sure this would not come from just missing it once or several times at least in my opinion.You asked where they where my guess caves wilderness and possibly highways as when ministers respond in the wrong way.they may be thrown into the Lords permissive will and battle after battle.Athough everybody likes an itching ears message millions are sick dying and demon possessed time is short.The message an Apostle or Prophet may carry may not be so nice and may involve messages for other ministries as art katz would say how they respond may decide the fate of the church and the minister.I Believe the Lord needs an army of soldiers and to do that requires battles unity obedience to His Spirit and Discerning who He sends and caring enough to seek His Face about it.
Makes me wonder...I was cleaning out some things and came across a prophecy by Kim Clement dated 1-1-2006. Here is one a paragraph of his prophecy:
"This year, I will raise up Eminem to be a voice. Conversion shall come to his house--Eminem. This year I will touch Stephen King, and he will write for the Kingdom of God. This year, I will raise up Rupert Murdoch, who shall even stand before you. This year, there shall be a joining of networks--ABC being one of them, and they shall have a section where Christ will be glorified," says the Lord.
The whole thing is here: http://www.elijahlist.com/words/display_word/3727
Gene, I hear you on all the ear tickling words but surely there have been just as many or more false gloom and doom and mayhem and calamity words spewed out the last many years also. I think Loren Sanford called it "toxic" spew.
Go to blueletter bible.org punch in scoffers click on scoffers 1703 read tw scripture uses below click on g1702 read it click on G3816 read click on g5180 read scriptures on conscience After you read that pick up the book by rick joyner where he was shown an island if I remember correctly he was shown people eating drinking and playing the Lord backed up His presence from Him.He became jealous for the Lord you know prophets do that God shares feelings and emotions.He asked Jesus what this was short version most won’t make it. I thinlk? the book was the vision Larry Randolph bob jones ricky skaggs james goll eyes and ears conference that Saturday 2011 mufrsoboro tennesee –you won’t find this posted anywhere to my knowledge(I was led to go I do not nor have I ever attended any since(not been led to) When Howard carter addressed the full gospel business mens convention clip at brotherma.org He dropped the mike weeping and couldn’t continue he told them look what you have done to the Apostles and Prophets with your church boards and committees and programs and can you point out anywhere church descions where made without prayer or prayer meetings. Norvel hayes testimony Son please don’t st op casting out demons so many ministers are blessed in ministry and they stop casting out demons I want you to cast out demons. l Lord if you want me to cast out demons if that’s what you want you’ve got a bunch of rebellious children reply that doesn”t mean you have to be. 1Sa 15:23 Dereck prince quote so many get in the door thet just remain children and well the series is bend the church bow the world free on web.Other dereck prince quote simon the sorcerer offered to pay money for what the Apostles had if he walked into most churches today he wouldn’t give you a plug nickel.if I remember the last several decades of His life came a change in ministry do to this it’s a clip on u-tube Dereck prince warns America Warning To America 1987 by Lester Sumrall you tube leonard ravenhill we don't know God youtube. Kathryn kuhlman Why you must know God in person Him salvation is somebody free on web Mariah woodworth etter teachings included sermons on don’t blapshpheme the Holy Spirit Finney warned of hell to Christians and non Christians and people fell under such conviction they held on to the pillars crying out to God. William booth did too there is a testimony by a man that new him to leonard ravenhill well worth listening to.the Wake up call by oral Roberts(was told we are out of time my church isn’t ready Israel isn’t ready but I have set an time) although he took it to Kenneth Copeland and he took it to billye brim a lot of scripture can be applied to this. John baver it’s on my I don’t have the series name tracks are a fit military chosen and appointed the time has come seven times greater. God desires relationship always has biblical comparison family of a King and Militant army recommended books free on web Lester summerall militant church and norvel hayes training cmap for the army of God. I do not know about doom and gloom the greatest tragedy to me would be to not count the cost that made it possible for Jesus to become our Lord as to peace He has left us His peace this is worth shouting about.But the prophet John probavly still has one of the greates messages for today Repent fotr the kingdom of heaven is at hand.Jesus himself said think not I have come to bring peace but a sword.God has been speaking for a long time but time has a limit.
Anonymous scott said...ha ha I agree if there is to be calamity or end time prophecy must knows concerning the course of events for my life the Lord will deal with me about it persistently . example that frodsham and tommy hicks prophecy I threw away I don't know how many times!and GODLY people would call me or bring to the den or the computer repeatedly thoughout several months you've got to read this what do you think about this. Finally I just found audio versions and put them on my mp3 player. now a testimony some prophecys several years later I was kind of surprised to find hicks on billye brims website and kcm.others I read are potentially poisonous. still others I may be led to seek God for explanation and interpretation. In the end I am struggling physically and financially to be made whole again.if you have heard t.austin sparks message on threshing I went through the grinder (prayer would be appreciated) my family has been a great help to me they where increasingly concerned about all the ministries saying by and store food I turned to one and heard making merchandise of men I went to k mart and saw an item at less than half their survival price they had been selling it for. I set my mind to seek God my family had provided my church did not. after several weeks of seeking God.a conversation that went something like this took place God really really you called me to be your prophet they know you called me would you really not tell me what about the prophets reward my family prvided and sees the call on my life, To which I finally heard Loudly I have shown you the vision for your life you have seen the end.I was caught up in 2004 (What I was shown was stadium other countries churches and well dressed people some with notebooks)that being said and even prophesied many times since then it is wise and I think basic Wisdom to have a short term supply of food around 3 weeks ten jars of peanut butter and water if you will but as far as destruction bombings and those things I firmly believe the Lord will tell me and not just me but those who's ear is tuned to Him. there are valid prophecies and warnings but I believe the largest part of barking about these thing and dreams and visions may not be coming from the Lord. However calls to plan purpose relationship and growth are probably more valid than tommorrows food. correction and reproof are part of it.
from Scott not really for post although the doors for india Africa and cuba have opened up I have not made it to one yet. But I did want to explain something when is say most of this doom and gloom stuff I don't believe is from God I just wanted to clarify that doesn't mean I think they are all unsaved. When God said I would pour out my Spirit there would be dreams and visions. As I am sure you know at times its fine to see in the spiritual realm and act immediately. other times it is imperitive to seek God i learned this the hard way.I have talked to and heard pastors and laymen who do not know this or don't see the importance of it. Some testimonies are disasterous, others who flow in prophecy fluently and are told they are prophets there is a lot of confusion. I agree with Kenneth hagin if a prophet starts out seeing develop your hearing or vice versa. both are aspects of the prophet he said that healing revival and sheparding movement was a test run they witnessed prophets and pastors that refused churches disbanded and even at times pastors dying early even some evangelists anointed by the Lord give heed to seducing spirits until they where gone. this can include dreams and visions Going thru the School of the Holy Spirit and letting God develop character and training that are proportionate to the call is essential gifting may well not be enough as to the things faced in a ministry or in the Spiritual realm. There are very few alive that I know of who can teach these things as the ones that went before them or are about ready to go. I find this strange considering we just come closer to the closing of the age with increasing danger.
A REAL PROPHET MAY KNOW WHERE THE REAL KEY TO KNOWLEDGE LIES..IT COULD BE IN THE FORM OF A PARABLE.YOU CAN ONLY UNDERSTAND THE PARABLE IF YOU CAN SEE...IF HE IS BLIND LEADING THE BLIND[THEN HE OR SHE IS BLIND]..YOU SEE A TRUE MAN OF GOD -WILL KNOW WHAT IT MEANS IF YOU ARE LOOKING FOR ME LOOK UNDER A ROCK--SPLIT A PIECE OF WOOD,,WHEN GOD SENDS A MESSAGE TO SOMEONE HE MAY MAKE THEM LIVE IT FOR YEARS TO THEY UNDERSTAND..WHAT YOU ARE LOOKING FOR IS IN THE CHANGES--IT GROWS.THIS IS HOW IT IS WRITTEN IN YOUR WORLD--THE PERSON WHO CAN SEE AS JESUS TALKED ABOUT --CANNOT BELIEVE THE TRUTH--SO HE LIVES EACH DAY EXTRACTING THE INFORMATION FROM THE WORLD WONDERING WHY--AND HE MAY KEEP QUIET..IS IT THE PERSON WHO CAN SEE SUPPOSE TO TEACH MAN HOW TO SEE--OR IS EVERYONE SUPPOSE TO FIGURE IT OUT FOR THEMSELVES--BUT I WILL TELL YOU THIS EVERY THING I CAN SEE NOW --WILL BE REVELED TO MAN--WHAT WILL BE REVILED TO YOU IS ALREADY HERE ..MAY I SUGGEST YOU WAKE YOURSELF UP NOW--JESUS PARABLE HAS ALREADY STARTED..I FEEL SORRY FOR MAN--FOR HE IS TRULY BLIND--HARLES1855@HOTMAIL.COM--IF I REVEAL THE TRUTH I DO NOT KNOW WHAT WILL HAPPEN--WHEN GOD CAN SEND A MESSAGE TO YOU IN A LIONS MOUTH AND YOU CANNOT READ THE MESSAGE OR TOUCH THE LION--THEN YOU WILL MORE THAN LIKELY HAVE TO LIVE IT -OUR GOD IS GOD-MAKE NO MISTAKE ABOUT THIS--START WITH YOUR CLOUDS--UNDERSTAND WHAT THEY MEAN--WHEN 2 BECOME ONE--YOU CAN DO THIS--YOU JUST THINK YOU CANT-LOOK FOR THE PERSON--USE THE PARABLE--WHEN THE PARABLE IS APPLIED TO EVERYTHING--THE INFORMATION WILL REVEAL ITSELF
9 comments:
I was wondering the other day why were some of the prophet saying "happy, happy" prophecy. The prophets of old didn't just prophesied happy things. They also prophesied against people, nations, letting one know they were doing wrong, the future. I found myself wondering where were the prophets like the old today?
Luk 11:49 Therefore also said the wisdom of GOD, I WILL SEND them prophets and apostles, and [some] of them they shall slay-c) of any kind of separation of one thing from another by which the union or fellowship of the two is destroyed and persecute: -1) to make to run or flee, put to flight, drive away
2) to run swiftly in order to catch a person or thing, to run after a) to press on: figuratively of one who in a race runs swiftly to reach the goal b) to pursue (in a hostile manner) 3) in any way whatever to harass, trouble, molest one luke 18 1- 9 mat 13:16 -43 rev 18-1-24 I remember mike bickle teachin a message and I don’t listen to many from him. It seems maybe the Lord dealt with him about the seven thunders being messages that prophets will bring forth that will be fearful and wonderful but many will say that this is not the Jesus we knew many will draw back but the message will be given and fully understood making them accountable and that these prophets are alive today. Prophets and Apostles at least in my opinion should in touch with one another.They are called to the balcony of heaven and I have always heard the wicked where those that new better and went into absoloute rebellion. God in His mercy sends them judgement starts with His church. I have read on your website and many others about prophets and sent ones being treated very badly and so it begins.There are true Prophets and Apostles as you well know.The up and coming leaders are the absoloute foolish things God may use to test. if current leadership is discerning the Body submitting one to another as unto the Lord running things by their own means and becoming wise in their own eyes. Time is very short wether the next generation will be killed off or God will begin to remove in some way leaders unacceptable I do not know.Kenneth Hagin has a testimony of seeing Jesus and the subject came up what if they don’t receive me to which the reply was shake the dust off your feet time is short and I will remove what they currently have I think it was candlestick. I am pretty sure this would not come from just missing it once or several times at least in my opinion.You asked where they where my guess caves wilderness and possibly highways as when ministers respond in the wrong way.they may be thrown into the Lords permissive will and battle after battle.Athough everybody likes an itching ears message millions are sick dying and demon possessed time is short.The message an Apostle or Prophet may carry may not be so nice and may involve messages for other ministries as art katz would say how they respond may decide the fate of the church and the minister.I Believe the Lord needs an army of soldiers and to do that requires battles unity obedience to His Spirit and Discerning who He sends and caring enough to seek His Face about it.
Makes me wonder...I was cleaning out some things and came across a prophecy by Kim Clement dated 1-1-2006. Here is one a paragraph of his prophecy:
"This year, I will raise up Eminem to be a voice. Conversion shall come to his house--Eminem. This year I will touch Stephen King, and he will write for the Kingdom of God. This year, I will raise up Rupert Murdoch, who shall even stand before you. This year, there shall be a joining of networks--ABC being one of them, and they shall have a section where Christ will be glorified," says the Lord.
The whole thing is here:
http://www.elijahlist.com/words/display_word/3727
In regards to Anonymouse said
this may seem tragic.New Living Translation (©2007) "As a result, this generation will be held responsible for the murder of all God's prophets from the creation of the world--
this still applies today. You must understand it is the biblical pattern for God to send prophets to His people nations and the World. The religious cast killed many of them and their ministries and it really brings out the danger and accountability of what God expects from His leaders.as men we where born to build conquer and rule. eph 4 states one body many by their actions do not acknowledge this.The apostle prophet and teacher even thevangelist are made merchandise of unless they preach an ear ickling message the churches many times will starve them refuse to acknowledge their office and throw them away like yesterdays trash. many make laws out of the new testament scripture and develop their multitude of counslers and submission system all in the name of religion. Usually the prophet known or unknown is sent as a last ditch effort God desiring mercy sends them so that His people and leaders may seek His face it is written my Spirit will not strive with man forever, This includes all living men. The church system preaches about sin that's alright but what about the sin of not producing beleivers no sick healed no demons cast out no understanding of the meat of the Word every believer is called to do exactly these things and God watches the death count and its eternal toll. I believe many don't know others don't know how many more don't care but in the end it was the job of the five ministry offices to get them there.
Gene, I hear you on all the ear tickling words but surely there have been just as many or more false gloom and doom and mayhem and calamity words spewed out the last many years also. I think Loren Sanford called it "toxic" spew.
Go to blueletter bible.org punch in scoffers click on scoffers 1703 read tw scripture uses below click on g1702 read it click on G3816 read click on g5180 read scriptures on conscience After you read that pick up the book by rick joyner where he was shown an island if I remember correctly he was shown people eating drinking and playing the Lord backed up His presence from Him.He became jealous for the Lord you know prophets do that God shares feelings and emotions.He asked Jesus what this was short version most won’t make it. I thinlk? the book was the vision
Larry Randolph bob jones ricky skaggs james goll eyes and ears conference that Saturday 2011 mufrsoboro tennesee –you won’t find this posted anywhere to my knowledge(I was led to go I do not nor have I ever attended any since(not been led to) When Howard carter addressed the full gospel business mens convention clip at brotherma.org He dropped the mike weeping and couldn’t continue he told them look what you have done to the Apostles and Prophets with your church boards and committees and programs and can you point out anywhere church descions where made without prayer or prayer meetings.
Norvel hayes testimony Son please don’t st op casting out demons so many ministers are blessed in ministry and they stop casting out demons I want you to cast out demons. l Lord if you want me to cast out demons if that’s what you want you’ve got a bunch of rebellious children reply that doesn”t mean you have to be. 1Sa 15:23
Dereck prince quote so many get in the door thet just remain children and well the series is bend the church bow the world free on web.Other dereck prince quote simon the sorcerer offered to pay money for what the Apostles had if he walked into most churches today he wouldn’t give you a plug nickel.if I remember the last several decades of His life came a change in ministry do to this it’s a clip on u-tube
Dereck prince warns America
Warning To America 1987 by Lester Sumrall you tube
leonard ravenhill we don't know God youtube.
Kathryn kuhlman Why you must know God in person Him salvation is somebody free on web
Mariah woodworth etter teachings included sermons on don’t blapshpheme the Holy Spirit
Finney warned of hell to Christians and non Christians and people fell under such conviction they held on to the pillars crying out to God.
William booth did too there is a testimony by a man that new him to leonard ravenhill well worth listening to.the Wake up call by oral Roberts(was told we are out of time my church isn’t ready Israel isn’t ready but I have set an time) although he took it to Kenneth Copeland and he took it to billye brim a lot of scripture can be applied to this. John baver it’s on my I don’t have the series name tracks are a fit military chosen and appointed the time has come seven times greater. God desires relationship always has biblical comparison family of a King and Militant army recommended books free on web Lester summerall militant church and norvel hayes training cmap for the army of God. I do not know about doom and gloom the greatest tragedy to me would be to not count the cost that made it possible for Jesus to become our Lord as to peace He has left us His peace this is worth shouting about.But the prophet John probavly still has one of the greates messages for today Repent fotr the kingdom of heaven is at hand.Jesus himself said think not I have come to bring peace but a sword.God has been speaking for a long time but time has a limit.
Anonymous scott said...ha ha
I agree if there is to be calamity or end time prophecy must knows concerning the course of events for my life the Lord will deal with me about it persistently . example that frodsham and tommy hicks prophecy I threw away I don't know how many times!and GODLY people would call me or bring to the den or the computer repeatedly thoughout several months you've got to read this what do you think about this. Finally I just found audio versions and put them on my mp3 player. now a testimony some prophecys several years later I was kind of surprised to find hicks on billye brims website and kcm.others I read are potentially poisonous. still others I may be led to seek God for explanation and interpretation. In the end I am struggling physically and financially to be made whole again.if you have heard t.austin sparks message on threshing I went through the grinder (prayer would be appreciated) my family has been a great help to me they where increasingly concerned about all the ministries saying by and store food I turned to one and heard making merchandise of men I went to k mart and saw an item at less than half their survival price they had been selling it for. I set my mind to seek God my family had provided my church did not. after several weeks of seeking God.a conversation that went something like this took place God really really you called me to be your prophet they know you called me would you really not tell me what about the prophets reward my family prvided and sees the call on my life, To which I finally heard Loudly I have shown you the vision for your life you have seen the end.I was caught up in 2004 (What I was shown was stadium other countries churches and well dressed people some with notebooks)that being said
and even prophesied many times since then it is wise and I think basic Wisdom to have a short term supply of food around 3 weeks ten jars of peanut butter and water if you will but as far as destruction bombings and those things I firmly believe the Lord will tell me and not just me but those who's ear is tuned to Him. there are valid prophecies and warnings but I believe the largest part of barking about these thing and dreams and visions may not be coming from the Lord. However calls to plan purpose relationship and growth are probably more valid than tommorrows food. correction and reproof are part of it.
from Scott not really for post although the doors for india Africa and cuba have opened up I have not made it to one yet. But I did want to explain something when is say most of this doom and gloom stuff I don't believe is from God I just wanted to clarify that doesn't mean I think they are all unsaved. When God said I would pour out my Spirit there would be dreams and visions. As I am sure you know at times its fine to see in the spiritual realm and act immediately. other times it is imperitive to seek God i learned this the hard way.I have talked to and heard pastors and laymen who do not know this or don't see the importance of it. Some testimonies are disasterous, others who flow in prophecy fluently and are told they are prophets there is a lot of confusion. I agree with Kenneth hagin if a prophet starts out seeing develop your hearing or vice versa. both are aspects of the prophet he said that healing revival and sheparding movement was a test run they witnessed prophets and pastors that refused churches disbanded and even at times pastors dying early even some evangelists anointed by the Lord give heed to seducing spirits until they where gone. this can include dreams and visions Going thru the School of the Holy Spirit and letting God develop character and training that are proportionate to the call is essential gifting may well not be enough as to the things faced in a ministry or in the Spiritual realm. There are very few alive that I know of who can teach these things as the ones that went before them or are about ready to go. I find this strange considering we just come closer to the closing of the age with increasing danger.
A REAL PROPHET MAY KNOW WHERE THE REAL KEY TO KNOWLEDGE LIES..IT COULD BE IN THE FORM OF A PARABLE.YOU CAN ONLY UNDERSTAND THE PARABLE IF YOU CAN SEE...IF HE IS BLIND LEADING THE BLIND[THEN HE OR SHE IS BLIND]..YOU SEE A TRUE MAN OF GOD -WILL KNOW WHAT IT MEANS IF YOU ARE LOOKING FOR ME LOOK UNDER A ROCK--SPLIT A PIECE OF WOOD,,WHEN GOD SENDS A MESSAGE TO SOMEONE HE MAY MAKE THEM LIVE IT FOR YEARS TO THEY UNDERSTAND..WHAT YOU ARE LOOKING FOR IS IN THE CHANGES--IT GROWS.THIS IS HOW IT IS WRITTEN IN YOUR WORLD--THE PERSON WHO CAN SEE AS JESUS TALKED ABOUT --CANNOT BELIEVE THE TRUTH--SO HE LIVES EACH DAY EXTRACTING THE INFORMATION FROM THE WORLD WONDERING WHY--AND HE MAY KEEP QUIET..IS IT THE PERSON WHO CAN SEE SUPPOSE TO TEACH MAN HOW TO SEE--OR IS EVERYONE SUPPOSE TO FIGURE IT OUT FOR THEMSELVES--BUT I WILL TELL YOU THIS EVERY THING I CAN SEE NOW --WILL BE REVELED TO MAN--WHAT WILL BE REVILED TO YOU IS ALREADY HERE ..MAY I SUGGEST YOU WAKE YOURSELF UP NOW--JESUS PARABLE HAS ALREADY STARTED..I FEEL SORRY FOR MAN--FOR HE IS TRULY BLIND--HARLES1855@HOTMAIL.COM--IF I REVEAL THE TRUTH I DO NOT KNOW WHAT WILL HAPPEN--WHEN GOD CAN SEND A MESSAGE TO YOU IN A LIONS MOUTH AND YOU CANNOT READ THE MESSAGE OR TOUCH THE LION--THEN YOU WILL MORE THAN LIKELY HAVE TO LIVE IT -OUR GOD IS GOD-MAKE NO MISTAKE ABOUT THIS--START WITH YOUR CLOUDS--UNDERSTAND WHAT THEY MEAN--WHEN 2 BECOME ONE--YOU CAN DO THIS--YOU JUST THINK YOU CANT-LOOK FOR THE PERSON--USE THE PARABLE--WHEN THE PARABLE IS APPLIED TO EVERYTHING--THE INFORMATION WILL REVEAL ITSELF
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