Ultimately, if not dealt with, the disloyalty that spreads through the congregation will bring a church split or the departure of many affected saints.
Here are the twelve stages:
1. AN INDEPENDENT SPIRIT – An attitude of independence emerges when the person no longer wants to serve the leadership but seeks recognition and a reputation.
2. SELF-PROMOTION – The person will maneuver for the praise of men. In II Samuel 15, Absalom stole the hearts of the people.
3. SPIRITUAL PRIDE – As people recognize and praise the deceived individual, he begins to believe that he is more spiritual than the leaders.
4. AN OFFENDED SPIRIT – The Absalom falls into an offended spirit because of spiritual pride. When his ideas and gifts are not promoted by the leadership as he believes they should be, he becomes highly offended. Often he will seek others that will agree with him in his offense.
5. A CRITICAL SPIRIT – Almost all the decisions of the leaders are questioned and undermined to the people. Sadly, with this critical spirit, the Absalom no longer can receive any spiritual feeding or direction from the leadership.
6. A COMPETITIVE SPIRIT – The Absalom sees himself in competition with the church leadership and begins to distort and misrepresent the decisions and directives the leaders are giving.
7. SOWING STRIFE AND DIVISION – The Absalom will take his offenses to many individuals in the church and spread his discontent through various means.
8. ACCUSING THE LEADERSHIP – The Absalom feeds his followers his critical spirit and faultfinding. Minor things, usually not related to God’s spiritual qualifications, will be made major issues, such as what kind of car the pastor drives, how long he takes to receive the offerings, etc.
9. OPEN DISLOYALTY AND DIVISION – The Absalom feels that many are following him so he boldly brings his disloyalty out into the open. At this point the leaders become aware of his discontented splinter group. Now the people are forced to make a choice between the leaders of the church and the Absalom who has deceived them.
10.A BOLD CONSPIRACY – The Absalom justifies his conspiracy to everyone by focusing their attention on all the minor issues that he has found fault with in the leadership. (Usually, the Absalom does not have legitimate accusations such as the preaching of false doctrines or blatant sin on the part of the pastors.)
11.A CHURCH SPLIT – The Absalom leads a naive splinter group out to the birth of a new church or ministry. Declare a new vision.
12.GOD’S JUDGMENT ON THE REBELLIOUS CHURCH – The scripture tells us, “if the root be evil, the whole tree will be evil,” and every church or ministry that is birthed by an Absalom spirit will be full of rebellion, disloyalty, and continual church splits.
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I understand the anology although paul spent three years in the wilderness. Turned believers over to the devil rebuked leaders and threatened discipline on churches.Can anyone tell me where the new testament verision of praers that route demons are and why Christians are told exodus concerning generational curses but not Ezekiel 18 where God said in my slang you will have no opportunity to bring that excuse up to me again. To each His own is how I shall judge !
The LORD said to Satan, "From where do you come?" Then Satan answered the LORD and said, "From roaming about on the earth and walking around on it." I find it simply amazing that supposed henchman of His can be omnipresent when he had to roam about? Even with this jezebel thing. We cast out demons we battle four different greek words rick renner teaches on them it is as a cagematch no rules to the death in greek. Funny how I never heard this taught at schambachs school or norval hayes.even from the visitors. one used the analogy. never in the text of casting out. I think it's safe to say all instructers and visiting ministers cast out demons. To not believe the prophet Ezekiel in the 18th chapter may well be to perpetuate err. Is it not written when a spirit is cast out it brings seven more more wicked than itself. NEED I SAY MORE ? As to His input Jude 11: "Woe to them! They have taken the way of Cain; they have rushed for profit into Balaam's error; they have been destroyed in Korah's rebellion." (NIV)
a little depth with scripture.7The LORD said to Satan, "From where do you come?" Then Satan answered the LORD and said, "From roaming about on the earth and walking around on it.satan is not omnipresent ! are his supposed henchman more able than him?We cast out Demons daimōn- in the NT, an evil spirit. The root Word explains singular secondary word plural. Study to show yourself approved ! jezebel Ahab all this terminology is leading to doctorinal err. If you cast it out it roams in dry place and tries to come back. Therefore no one else can be casting this supposed spirit out anywhere in the world ! That is not what many are teaching! This is the scriptural result of casting out,"Luke 11:26 25"And when it comes, it finds it swept and put in order. 26"Then it goes and takes along seven other spirits more evil than itself, and they go in and live there; and the last state of that man becomes worse than the first." Eph 6:12For we wrestle not G against flesh and blood, but against principalities, against powers, against the rulers of the darkness of this world, against spiritual wickedness in G high places. To wrestle-wrestling (a contest between two in which each endeavours to throw the other, and which is decided when the victor is able to hold his opponent down with his hand upon his neck) Basicaly Binding No reference ever to casting out in bible they have troops which would be what is cast out.
ARE YOU SURE YOU AREN'T TALKING ABOUT 10 SIGNS OF HOW MANY PASTORS RULE THEIR CHURCH ?
ABSALOM SPIRIT OF REBELLION AND DISLOYALTY. I AM KNEW TO ALL THIS PASTOR SAID WE MUST STUDY THINGS OUT FOR OURSELVES. CAN NAYBODY GIVE ME THE SCRIPTURE FOR ABSALAM SPIRIT ?
Part 1 of 2 Commonly used for jezebel and ahab verses Aramaic Bible in Plain English 2 Corinthians 4:18 Commonly used for jezebel and ahab doctorines For we do not rejoice in those things that are seen, but in these things that are unseen. For things seen are time related, but those things that are unseen are eternal. Oiginal language translation –nope can’t use that7But we speak the wisdom of God in a mystery, [even] the hidden [wisdom], which God ordained before the world unto our glory: Keep it in text this is concering the preaching and instruction in the Word. –nope can’t be used Jesus said My Word is Spirit and life.Now that being said. Many will now say I have a deeper spiritual truth. They almost always have only scripture which they imply their truth to. As Kenneth Hagin used to say Word and Spirit one with out the other will lead to err. You could get lost.The bad thing about this post is Revelation 2:24 24'But I say to you, the rest who are in Thyatira, who do not hold this teaching, who have not known the deep things of Satan, as they call them-- I place no other burden on you. 2 Thessalonians 2 8Then that lawless one will be revealed whom the Lord will slay with the breath of His mouth and bring to an end by the appearance of His coming; 9that is, the one whose coming is in accord with the activity of Satan, with all power and signs and false wonders, 10and with all the deception of wickedness for those who perish, because they did not receive the love of the truth so as to be saved.…Kenneth hagin during what was known as the healing revival watched as evamgelists became deceived as to the source of the revelation gifts dreams and visions. Good men highly anointed start taking from the wrong source unti l they where gone. Even more so with prophets. To perpetuate a doctorine identifying a depth of satans kingdom with all the new testament scripture we are given concerning it that does not support that doctorine may well lead to err
part 2 of 2 Frodsham warned of mixture this can be deadly more so to prophets and apostles than any other as you aren’t either if you don’t flow in the gifts and dreams and visions at least in my understanding if you are your knowledge is already lacking or way off. If they call it a spirit and cast it out satan is not omnipresent. If they call it a principality well you who are seasoned and experienced whom the Lord has ordered into conflict should know full well God trains you and prepares you for that and it is not for the average believer. To perpetuate the things in this article is to neglect many of the hard things paul spoke about in the new testament as it clearly states men will be and do those things.A deadly risk is to seek for such apart from Gods direction will and timing for He has written if you seek you will find and we are not to test him on that. If the enemy could stage a rabbit trail in the world or the spiritual realm stage battle after battle and sit by and laugh as he leads into deception and the wasting of time even unto distorted or denied doctorinal understanding you better believe he will.It’s the basic job of every believer to cast out demons however we are told there is 1/3 of a numberless host each of which probably had names.there are four more new testament words for what we battle.Many professing Christians don’t even do the basic signs for those who believe why would one promote doctorine that breeds strife division and yes even envy that is not scripturally identifiable but defiantly scripturally refutable. There is a battle waging across the realms but to identify it and try to fight it apart from the Word and Spirit is very dangerous for both young and mature Christians. Hagin may have been imbalalanced in areas one thing he did tell norval hayes is teaching demonology and about spiritual things he was never able to teach it all out because the body of believers was so spiritually lacking and immature either they would not receive it or build all kinds of doctorines about it. He did not want people errant in this area because he saw so many pastors evangelists and prophets lost to diving into spiritual things and getting so deceived they where gone.Many still taught in churches much damage was done.My recommendation would be order norval hates series on binding and loosing lester summral demonology 2 series Kenneth hagins first book on demonology out of print but free on the web and the three minibooks by lester summeral the invisible boy the witchdocter and bitten by demons. ANY responsible and knowledgable believer who has studied these encounters will not be promoting doctorines that lead to spiritual confrontation and initiation apart from Gods specifically leading and directing such. And for you morning star fans bob jones said he was told for people railing against principalities and powers they are given legal right for battle by starting the fight. They will kill you many young anointed evangelists where killed I knew I got to some. It’s not so much about the authority of Jesus name but the fact they where not led or trained to confront such things the battle is so different and they are so much more powerful than things resident on earth. Although dereck prince may well have gained a different perspective they both gave warnings for Christians to stay away from certain cult of the enemy as many do not survive the conflict this is not to scare anyone what God orders He equips for and is very longsuffering and patient but to persue certain things apart from His will and direction well.
I know I have written this before Rebecca brown has a book called he came to set the captives free. The doctorinal understanding is a bit light the testimony is outstanding as a former converted satanic highpriestess with insight into the infiltration and training of occultists to start churches get into leadership and infiltrate congregations. So many leaders in this period of time in America are going to regret not seeking God about who is in their church and on staff.It may take until they hit heaven to realize when God said let the prophets speak and support the body every one has a place and every joint supplies a need HE MEANT IT !As to the ones who want to study it out if you are under 8 or ten years old as a dedicated disciple of Jesus Christ I do not encourage you to do so unless specifically led to !
One other thing I submitted part one and two and the book reference. You will notice general commonalities with all resources mentioned. Brother Lester summral was an apostle. He did deal with that power over manila with some extremely mature believers and ministers and a week or two of hours and hours and hours of prayer. concerning the woman possessed in manila.He did not want to go He asked God to send someone else. the testimony of the reply he got after the lord dealt with him I have no one else to send in the area. This was during a national revival. Kenneth Hagin a prophet has the most testimony about going into seeing into and being told you deal with it or you will be held accountable. Brother norval hayes is almost strictly feet on the ground and general defense. With an invaluable testimony about a confrontation with a satanic high priest which took hours ! and around 30 Spirit filled believers praying in the Spirit and well this is a priceless testimony. The enemy has rank and structure and so God has given gifts to the Body as ed dufrense would say one up one down if God calls you to be an Apostle or prophet there are only so many rest assured satan wants you dead above all because of the authority given these offices to damage His kingdom and create eternal effect. God considers this an honour he only destined so many if you refuse He will kill you.Also of note he does have testimony of receiving a prophetic Word. The battle will so intensify that some men will be required to walk in the spiritual realm where few if any man ever has. (summary)this falls in line with billye brims testimony of sitting in front of Kenneth hagin and His eyes becoming as flames and He began to prophecy? he is fighting the enemy is fighting he knows time is short but the Lord is coming.also in line with prophetic Word submitted by dereck prince in His message on false religion free on the web
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