Friday, July 25, 2014

Sheep Abuse

Believe it or not, this is controversial to some pastors who love to dangle their members over hell with a rotten stick. They require constant confession, repentance, ceremony, sacrament and sorrow from them (plus a good offering) to mitigate their sin. We have to get past the laws of sin and death. Jesus either died for all your sins or none of them.

I think might be possible to go to hell after one is saved... but then I don't want to argue with Jesus... John 10:25 Jesus replied, “I have already told you, and you don’t believe me. The proof is the work I do in my Father’s name. 26 But you don’t believe me because you are not my sheep. 27 My sheep listen to my voice; I know them, and they follow me. 28 I give them eternal life, and they will never perish. No one can snatch them away from me, 29 for my Father has given them to me, and he is more powerful than anyone else. No one can snatch them from the Father’s hand. 30 The Father and I are one.”


Anonymous said...

25not forsaking our own assembling together, as is the habit of some, but encouraging one another; and all the more as you see the day drawing near. 26For if we go on sinning willfully after receiving the knowledge of the truth, there no longer remains a sacrifice for sins, 27but a terrifying expectation of judgment and THE FURY OF A FIRE WHICH WILL CONSUME THE ADVERSARIES.…This is controversial- When we look in John we see their is a sin unto death and a sin not unto death- The apostles exapanded on that addressing Christians. Corinthians Paul expands on defilement of Gods temple and despising the cross- which as dereck prince teaches is when Gods will says do something your will or His. Your choice but their are consequences.We see jude address the same and more and James define spiritual adultery in Gods sight. Just to mention a few. now paul said I do the things I do not wish to repentance like a hamster on the wheel and God never expected it. We are equipped with three things mentioned in Hebrews what shall we do James said confess sin John said confess sin..This is the aspect not many teach we draw near to God (communicate with a blood sanctified conscience. This is what hagin Meijer and tozer all taught. ignore God enough and you will sear that conscience. You may be a good man do many good things and sing in the choir but if you sear that conscience paul said in the sight of God your faith is shipwrecked. in the original language it is clear it is no longer good. The parables Jesus taught can be seen in the apostles teaching and traced all the way to the address of Jesus himself in revelation...

Anonymous said...

I did not think this would fit in the last address.To make this simple salvation brings us to know God called according to His purpose to will and do His good Works. As such our choice is walk according to the Spirit as the law of the Spirit gives life and the Spirit of Power is present or do not it is a choice as the offer is of knowing God as defined by Jesus in John and Paul in Phl. I will paste something dereck prince taught on. yet defined better by a retired Christian greek professor since space is limited.

Anonymous said...


Salvation is not a product, but a relationship. It is not finished when one trusts Christ; it has only begun (a gate and then a road)! It is not a fire insurance policy, nor a ticket to heaven, but a life of growing Christlikeness. We have a proverbial saying in America that says the longer a couple lives together, the more they begin to look alike. This is the goal of salvation!


• Acts 15:11

• Romans 8:24

• 2 Timothy 1:9

• Titus 3:5

• Romans 13:11 (combines the aorist with a future orientation)


• Ephesians 2:5,8


• 1 Corinthians 1:18; 15:2

• 2 Corinthians 2:15

• 1 Peter 3:21

SALVATION AS A FUTURE CONSUMMATION (future in verb tense or context)

• Romans 5:9,10; 10:9,13

• 1 Corinthians 3:15; 5:5

• Philippians 1:28

• 1 Thessalonians 5:8-9

• Hebrews 1:14; 9:28

• 1 Peter 1:5

Therefore, salvation begins with an initial faith decision (cf. John 1:12; 3:16; Rom. 10:9-13), but this must issue in lifestyle faith (cf. Rom. 8:29; Gal. 2:19-20; Eph. 1:4; 2:10), which will one day be consummated in sight (cf. 1 John 3:2). This final state is called glorification. This can be illustrated as

1. initial salvation—justification (saved from the penalty of sin)

2. progressive salvation—sanctification (saved from the power of sin)

3. final salvation—glorification (saved from the presence of sin)

That being said these tenses some involving action some not all require and act of will. unbelief is two different words in the new testament 1. is unbelief the other is disobedience. The offer of God is relationship but religion does not qualify as evidence of His lordship..